Bfb Da Packman is a U.S. Postal Service employee turned rapper that loves toxicity. He’s a father, funny as hell, and has been making outlandish remarks since he was a kid growing up in Flint, Michigan. He’s probably the first artist to glorify having a day job, but that’s what keeps Packman grounded. “It’s keeping me humble,” he admits.
Today, Packman is overflowing with confidence. He asserts himself lyrically in a way that proves he belongs. With little to no shame, Packman details personal shortcomings and the internalized bouts of uncertainty that plague his everyday life. This juxtaposition provides context to Packman’s origin story: he’s never sought after the approval of others. He raps about life in sequence, allowing listeners to live vicariously through his unfiltered mentions.
With Fat N****s Need Love Too, Bfb Da Packman’s debut studio album, rap’s beloved mail carrier straddles the fence between self-deprecating jokes and body positivity, in a uncompromisingly candid sort of way. It’s hard to get offended by anything Packman says, partly because it’s self-directed.
DGB had the opportunity to chat with Packman after his set at Rolling Loud Miami 2021. Throughout our conversation, the Michigan rapper took lead as the interviewer, literally. Five minutes later, it became apparent that the “Free Joe Exotic” composer loves himself unconditionally, flaws and all. The best form of love comes from within, my nigga, as evident by Packman’s cheery outlook on life.
He came to Rolling Loud bearing donuts and more – check out our conversation below, lightly edited for clarity.
Where did the infamous “YELLO” adlib come from?
My uncle Mike used to be like “YELLO” when he would pick up the phone. I just took it and ran wit it.
Your bars come off as whimsical and impulsive. How have you retained such a carefree outlook on life?
Cuz, it’s like my nigga, you live with your flaws. You Black bro, you gotta live with that. What’s your name?
Derrius, what if you were born Mexican or something? You gotta live with that. You had no choice, you came out Black. You gotta live with that shit, know what I mean. I’ve been fat all my life, I live wit it. I make it sound lit. This the type of shit you gotta do.
Have you always been this confident?
Hell yeah, since day one. On my mama, I been wylin like this.
Is it easy to display that level of confidence in your music, since that’s who you are naturally?
Bro, it’s easy to rap your life. Who’s your favorite artist?
Lil Wayne, easily.
What do Future rap about?
Toxic masculinity, drugs.
You know why he do it so good?
Cuz that’s his lifestyle?
With that being said, do you consider yourself a lifestyle rapper?
Is there a certain level of toxicity that you’re not willing to entertain?
No, I’m living like that. What you can’t do bro, you can’t judge people for how they is. You gotta accept them for how they is or move the fuck on. If you ain’t built for a toxic woman, she gon’ fuck you over, literally. Everybody knows a woman or man that ain’t shit. You gotta be built for that. If you ain’t built for that, it don’t matter how fine a nigga or bitch is. If you ain’t built for that, you might wanna get away from that or you gon’ be bald by the end of 2021.
What’s keeping you from quitting your job at the post office now that you’ve become a rapper full-time?
It’s keeping me humble. You gotta remind you why you started this. You gotta remind you, can’t nobody else remind you. It ain’t like going to get tomatoes from the grocery store because y’all making tacos and your girl gotta tell you. It’s more so like you gotta go get your kids from school. Meaning, ain’t nobody gon’ tell you that. You gotta remember that. I don’t wanna be doing this for the rest of my life, so let’s take it to the next thing. But it’s also about remembering where I am.
Ah, so that position keeps you grounded?
Hell yeah, and the benefits.
From Flint, Michigan to Rolling Loud Miami, what does this moment mean to you?
It’s invigorating bro. It’s showing that my hard work is paying off, but let’s take it to another level. That’s how I look at this shit.